MadaMada

@madamada@snac.void.my

SysAdmin with simple life..interested in FOSS, FreeBSD, Linux, IPv6, cloud stuff and whatever things that come along the way I find interesting..
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[?]Didier Legrand »
@dal@mastodon.bsd.cafe

OVH VPS is limited with only one IPv6 so I can't run FreeBSD jails with each an IPv6. Too sad.

Contabo VPS have an IPv6 /64 but I can't get it to work with FreeBSD (Linux works). Too sad.

I have to find a VPS provider with similar cost than OVH or Contabo which works with FreeBSD.

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[?]Stefano Marinelli »
@stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

@dal the only one I'm aware of (and has similar prices) is Hetzner.

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    [?]Didier Legrand »
    @dal@mastodon.bsd.cafe

    @stefano Thank you. I'll look at what they offer.

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      [?]MadaMada »
      @madamada@snac.void.my

      Or split the /64 into 2 /72's, the latter 00ff::/72 you could assign to the bridge interface connecting the epair's.

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        [?]Didier Legrand »
        @dal@mastodon.bsd.cafe

        @madamada Currently without any jail, IPv6/64 on Contabo VPS does not work with default router address in /etc/rc.conf: ipv6_defaultrouter="fe80::1%vtnet0"
        (See forums.freebsd.org/threads/can for further information)

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          [?]MadaMada »
          @madamada@snac.void.my

          @delta@chaos.social Hey, check this out.. the foreground text color is the same as the background :


          v2.10.0 Desktop = Windows 10

            #freebsd boosted

            [?]OSNews » 🤖
            @osnews@mstdn.social

            Guide: FreeBSD, KDE Plasma, and Wayland

            But what if your friends and relatives are more interested in FreeBSD than Linux? Well, here we have a detailed guide to setting up a FreeBSD desktop using KDE Plasma and Wayland. Yes, Wayland is available in the BSD world as well, and in a few years I wouldn't be surprised to see most FreeBSD desktop guides - including the documentation from FreeBSD itself -

            osnews.com/story/143103/guide-

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              [?]MadaMada »
              @madamada@snac.void.my

              Err there's no guide about it on that link. The actual guide is at https://codeberg.org/thesaigoneer/pages/src/branch/main/FreeBSD%20and%20Plasma%206%20install

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                [?]goetz »
                @goetz@ipv6.social

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                [?]goetz »
                @goetz@ipv6.social

                To extend this to other German ISPs

                Reachable on

                OK
                OK

                NOK
                NOK
                NOK
                NOK
                NOK
                NOK

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                  [?]Miyuru Sankalpa »
                  @miyuru@ipv6.social

                  @goetz quick check from my side.

                  www.vodafone.de has v6
                  www.o2online.de has v6

                  www.wobcom.de have a fe80 address 😂

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                    [?]goetz »
                    @goetz@ipv6.social

                    @miyuru Thank you www.vodafone.de works. only checked vodafone.de

                    www.o2online.de gives you only a "Willkommen bei o2" text as some CDN and Script endpoints are not reachable.

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                      [?]MadaMada »
                      @madamada@snac.void.my

                      Our telco's here are like that too.. They do offer IPv6 with their services(FTTH/Mobile data) but when it comes to their own website, it's mostly / .. why they do this is beyond me :


                      CC: @miyuru@ipv6.social

                        [?]Thomas Schäfer »
                        @tschaefer@ipv6.social

                        @miyuru @goetz

                        I wrote a email to wobcom. Maybe ....

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                          [?]MadaMada »
                          @madamada@snac.void.my

                          @rdns@mastodon.social I tried both v055p and v055q, installed using the apk's.. the semi-stable one is v055p, which sometimes force closes and seems to do so when I start/stop Wireguard..

                          With v055q, it force closes more often and Wireguard(dual-stack) keeps connecting/disconnecting causing the state to be Protected/No internet..so I've turned that off for now..

                          At the moment I'm running rdns with my own DoT DNS + On-Device blocklists which works and is somewhat stable..

                            [?]matuzalem »
                            @matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                            I've been testing pkgbase on a VM and just updated to 14.3p2 no problem. Is it safe to upgrade to pkgbase a VM in production? Should I wait till FreeBSD 15? Probably.

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                            [?]ottO »
                            @ottobackwards@hachyderm.io

                            @matuzalem you should check @vermaden 's timeline

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                              [?]matuzalem »
                              @matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                              @ottobackwards @vermaden I followed his toutorial ;)

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                                [?]ottO »
                                @ottobackwards@hachyderm.io

                                @matuzalem @vermaden he has been raising issues with pkgbase on the lists

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                                  [?]vermaden »
                                  @vermaden@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                  @ottobackwards @matuzalem

                                  For a start I would just say that I like PKGBASE and I see it as a step forward comparing to existing freebsd-update(8) solution ... but there are serious concerns that need to be addressed.

                                  Its 'the' future - but I would not use it in production yet.

                                  First - it removes the Base System feature:
                                  - lists.freebsd.org/archives/fre
                                  - lists.freebsd.org/archives/fre
                                  - lists.freebsd.org/archives/fre
                                  - lists.freebsd.org/archives/fre

                                  Second - even updating sometimes renders system unusable:
                                  - lists.freebsd.org/archives/fre

                                  Generally - everytime you want to bess with pkg(8) - create new ZFS Boot Environment with beadm(8) or bectl(8) command.

                                  I do not know if these problems will be solved before 15.0 ... but they will be solved some time.

                                  From the good news - the 'old' way with freebsd-update(8) should still be supported during entire 15.x line - so no rush to migrate to PKGBASE at least.

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                                    [?]Eugene :freebsd: :emacslogo: »
                                    @evgandr@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                    @matuzalem I met problem with broken /tmp access rights after switching to pkgbase and updating the system. This was on the 14.3

                                    Luckily, I already knew about this problem :drgn_happy:

                                    hachyderm.io/@mikael/114997752

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                                      [?]ax6761 »
                                      @ax6761@freeradical.zone

                                      @matuzalem If you use "pkgbase", be sure to confirm the list of packages to be deleted lest your are left in a less than ideal state. (Oh, making ZFS snapshots and/or boot environment before changing installed packages would provide assurance.)

                                      Work on classification of "vital" (so far I understand that as "damn hard to remove") packages is on going, on "pkgbase" in general. Follow along via freebsd-{stable,current}@ —‍ lists.freebsd.org/archives/fre , lists.freebsd.org/archives/fre —‍ mailing lists.

                                        [?]Miyuru Sankalpa »
                                        @miyuru@ipv6.social

                                        OVH's new VPS lineup looks really tempting.

                                        It seems likely that other providers will soon follow with price drops.

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                                          [?]MadaMada »
                                          @madamada@snac.void.my

                                          @miyuru@ipv6.social Any idea if they hand out a routed /64 or on-Link /64 ?

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                                            [?]Miyuru Sankalpa »
                                            @miyuru@ipv6.social

                                            @madamada

                                            I think its a routed /64, I am not sure.

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                                              [?]MadaMada »
                                              @madamada@snac.void.my

                                              @miyuru@ipv6.social Just went to their website, I hate it that you have to fill in a ton of information just to ask a single question 😞

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                                                [?]Miyuru Sankalpa »
                                                @miyuru@ipv6.social

                                                @madamada yes, I had to register yesterday to ask if they support IPv6 on object storage.

                                                Also I read on lowendtalk that we need to create separate accounts to get servers in different regions.

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                                                  [?]goetz »
                                                  @goetz@ipv6.social

                                                  @miyuru @madamada management is only.

                                                  I look no further.

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                                                    [?]Joel Carnat ♑ 🤪 »
                                                    @joel@gts.tumfatig.net

                                                    Hey #FreeBSD admins with #OpenBSD as second language, what would be the equivalent to ˋacme-client` on FreeBSD?

                                                    Like in single command you run every night that checks if your Let’s encrypt certificates are up to date and, if not, just request another one. Nothing more, no integration with other software configuration.

                                                    I have looked in the handbook but there doesn’t seem to be a stock option. Also, I used pkg search but can’t make up my mind from the tenth of results :-/

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                                                      [?]MadaMada »
                                                      @madamada@snac.void.my

                                                      @joel@tumfatig.net I know of certbot, dehydrated and acme-client.. maybe check those..

                                                        [?]Jason Tubnor 🇦🇺 »
                                                        @Tubsta@soc.feditime.com

                                                        @joel acme.sh works for me on FreeBSD as an OpenBSD user. Very small learning curve.

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                                                          [?]Joel Carnat ♑ 🤪 »
                                                          @joel@gts.tumfatig.net

                                                          :flan_hacker: Ok, I managed to have acme.sh working on #FreeBSD, nearly the same way I use acme-client on #OpenBSD. Thanks people!

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                                                            [?]MadaMada »
                                                            @madamada@snac.void.my

                                                            @delta@chaos.social Is there a way to join existing groups? Hitting the '+' sign creates a new group, there's no join a group option, also there's no option to leave a group when you have joined one for example..

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                                                              [?]Delta Chat »
                                                              @delta@chaos.social

                                                              @madamada There is no public room/chat group directory where you could discover groups. It's all for private chatting with family, friends and pre-existing/forming circles. You can leave a group by clicking the "3-dot" menu and then tap "leave group".

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                                                                [?]MadaMada »
                                                                @madamada@snac.void.my

                                                                @delta@chaos.social Cool thanks. I joined the DeltaChat why2025 group so testing it out..

                                                                  #openbsd boosted

                                                                  [?]Justine Smithies »
                                                                  @justine@snac.smithies.me.uk

                                                                  If I were to host on my reverse proxy, static site, git server running cgit, Syncthing, Radicale, snac instance. Would you put them all on the same machine or would you advise to split them up ? Not saying I'm going to but research is ongoing to see what I can host on one machine compared to my current one machine running with several jails for each service.

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                                                                    [?]MadaMada »
                                                                    @madamada@snac.void.my

                                                                    [?]Lexi »
                                                                    @lexi@plasmatrap.com

                                                                    What do you think how well a domain with only nameservers will work?

                                                                    Like.. I assume that a huge chunk of DNS resolvers support IPv6, even when the client might not? ​:neocat_think:

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                                                                      [?]Miyuru Sankalpa »
                                                                      @miyuru@ipv6.social

                                                                      @lexi I asked the same question, for about 90% it worked.

                                                                      ipv6.social/@miyuru/1146201585

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                                                                        [?]MadaMada »
                                                                        @madamada@snac.void.my

                                                                        I have a few nameservers that are IPv6-only nameservers and they work fine..

                                                                          [?]Delta Chat »
                                                                          @delta@chaos.social

                                                                          We are basically doing what and in particular moxie refused to do or declares impossible: federation.

                                                                          Both and ecosystems are all about federation.

                                                                          However, is vertically centralized in that all UIs use the same core which implements all networking, encryption, chat/group/message logic in a single centralized place. The now 40+ mail relay network is driven from centralized code.

                                                                          At each level replication and federation is built in.

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                                                                            [?]Café-Junkie »
                                                                            @CafeJunkie@troet.cafe

                                                                            @delta
                                                                            👍👍👍
                                                                            ...und dennoch könnte man eigene Clients entwickeln oder Server aufsetzen. So gesehen ist nur der Modell-/Standard-Implementierung zentralisierter Code.
                                                                            Somit ist die Logik und sind die zugrunde-liegenden Standards aber auf mehreren Ebenen de-zentralierert.
                                                                            😎 😊

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                                                                              [?]Delta Chat »
                                                                              @delta@chaos.social

                                                                              @CafeJunkie fyi your comment contributed to the recent v2 blog post's "centralized chatmail core" argument. Thanks! :)

                                                                                [?]Fabrice Desré »
                                                                                @fabrice@fosstodon.org

                                                                                @delta Do you agree that having a single implementation is a weakness of deltachat, not a strength? Any 0 day means that 100% of users are vulnerable.

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                                                                                  [?]Delta Chat »
                                                                                  @delta@chaos.social

                                                                                  @fabrice having a rust core we consider a big advantage.

                                                                                  Most everybody else is trying to move their stacks implemented in java, swift, JavaScript at least partially to a shared rust basis. Signal has the cryptographic handling in rust now but otherwise three database-incompatible android/iOS/desktop impls of networking, parsing, chat/group/message logic.

                                                                                  One platform having flaws affects security of all chat groups so it's hardly a strength to have to care for three impls in three languages

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                                                                                    [?]Fabrice Desré »
                                                                                    @fabrice@fosstodon.org

                                                                                    @delta It's not a question of having implementations in different languages. Looks at browsers, on some OSes you can switch from Firefox/Chrome/Webkit if one is compromised, even though they are all mostly gigantic C++ codebases.

                                                                                    Ideally there would be another independent implementation of the protocols used by the DeltaChat clients. And it's not on you!

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                                                                                      [?]Lutin Discret »
                                                                                      @lutindiscret@mastodon.libre-entreprise.com

                                                                                      @fabrice @delta i think having a single impl may be the main success factor of delta. I really hope delta will keep the single rust core. The alternative is infinite time and headache to fix incompatibilities that kill UX. XMPP failure and matrix are there to remind us the hard truth. Moxxie was right 😞

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                                                                                        [?]MadaMada »
                                                                                        @madamada@snac.void.my

                                                                                        When you say federation do you mean the chatmail servers themselves are in federated mode and whoever signs up can talk to one another across those servers ?

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                                                                                          [?]Delta Chat »
                                                                                          @delta@chaos.social

                                                                                          @madamada yes, as long as you have a chatmail relay or classic email server that passes all cryptographic checks, you can reach any address in the chatmail relay network

                                                                                            [?]The Psychotic Network Ferret » 🤖
                                                                                            @nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                                                                            nuintari's rules of networking 0x14:

                                                                                            NAT should never have needed to exist.
                                                                                            NAT might have gone away, if y'all had taken IPv6 seriously in the mid 2000s.
                                                                                            But y'all got addicted to NAT, and now it is here to stay.
                                                                                            A significant number of complaints against IPv6 are now due to the sad reality that many people in IT do not understand networks without NAT.

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                                                                                            [?]subnetspider »
                                                                                            @subnetspider@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                                                                            @nuintari What's worse than NAT? Triple NAT! Last month, I replaced a customer's old firewall, which had two CPE routers cascaded in front of it.

                                                                                            And the best part? Someone - who didn't know about RFC1918 - configured the LAN IP address of the first CPE router as 192.167.x.1 instead of 192.168.x.1. The second CPE has 192.168.y.1 as its LAN IP address.

                                                                                            This confused the STUN part of our remote access tool because the first CPE's WAN and LAN IP-addresses were both public, causing some "unusual" connection issues.

                                                                                            Also, their site-to-site IPSec tunnel and road warrior VPN have been offline for years. I wonder why. It can't possibly be because of the absence of DNAT. ;)

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                                                                                              [?]Jernej Simončič � »
                                                                                              @jernej__s@infosec.exchange

                                                                                              @subnetspider @nuintari I've got a client with IPSec connection to their client where the remote side uses 211.69.0.0/16. And no, the remote company is not Chinese, it's French.

                                                                                                [?]The Psychotic Network Ferret » 🤖
                                                                                                @nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                                                                                Wow, multiple responses to this one, and not one of them is somebody defending how great NAT is, and/or how IPv6 is too hard, doesn't actually fix any real problems, etc....

                                                                                                I am sad to say that this is not a common scenario.

                                                                                                Thank you to everyone who has responded, you give me hope for the future.

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                                                                                                [?]subnetspider »
                                                                                                @subnetspider@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                                                                                @nuintari 😎

                                                                                                Comparison between complicated network using IPv4 and NAT vs simple network using IPv6 and routing.

                                                                                                Alt...Comparison between complicated network using IPv4 and NAT vs simple network using IPv6 and routing.

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                                                                                                  [?]MadaMada »
                                                                                                  @madamada@snac.void.my

                                                                                                  NAT = Network Address Tragedy :3

                                                                                                  CC: @nuintari@bsd.cafe

                                                                                                    #freebsd boosted

                                                                                                    [?]Cipher :OSI: »
                                                                                                    @blake@floss.social

                                                                                                    Do I go full scorched earth and nuke my Proxmox install for FreeBSD and utilize Jails? :freebsd:

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                                                                                                      [?]MadaMada »
                                                                                                      @madamada@snac.void.my

                                                                                                      Here's my 2 cents..

                                                                                                      The migration process involves knowing FreeBSD and jails and/or jail utilities. If you are familiar with it great, else further reading is required(documentations)..

                                                                                                      In short, you want to be running FreeBSD along-side Proxmox..then install FreeBSD and set up networking, do a binary upgrade of FreeBSD to the latest patch release..

                                                                                                      After that upgrade pkg to the latest as well. Then with the base and pkg upgraded, you can proceed to set up your first jail. Either using jail.conf(5) or BastilleBSD, the choice is up to you..structure is important so some planning is required..

                                                                                                      Now comes the tedious part, installing and configuring all the required packages to mirror what you already have on Proxmox..copying all the configurations over, editing and testing them one by one to make sure they all work..

                                                                                                      Good luck 🙂

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                                                                                                        [?]Cipher :OSI: »
                                                                                                        @blake@floss.social

                                                                                                        @madamada I have experience working with FreeBSD, including the use of jails and related utilities.

                                                                                                        For my homelab server, I opted for Proxmox primarily due to time constraints at the time of setup.

                                                                                                        Since the services running on my Proxmox installation are seldom used, rebuilding it from scratch wouldn’t be a significant loss for me.

                                                                                                        In fact, it presents an opportunity to configure everything exactly the way I’ve always wanted to. And, of course, there’s the added benefit of...

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                                                                                                          [?]MadaMada »
                                                                                                          @madamada@snac.void.my

                                                                                                          Great and I hope everything turns out well the way you want 🙂

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                                                                                                          [?]MadaMada »
                                                                                                          @madamada@snac.void.my

                                                                                                          My favorite Beastie 😀

                                                                                                          #freebsd boosted

                                                                                                          [?]Dendrobatus Azureus »
                                                                                                          @Dendrobatus_Azureus@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                                                                                          I love the power of curl combined with wttr.in

                                                                                                          Giving this example for those of us who love to use true free services for our work / live flow

                                                                                                          I've been using wttr for decade(s)

                                                                                                          Read here for more examples.

                                                                                                          github.com/chubin/wttr.in?tab=

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                                                                                                            [?]Dendrobatus Azureus »
                                                                                                            @Dendrobatus_Azureus@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                                                                                            I had to trim of this part from the ALT text due to max field size

                                                                                                            For Sunday, July 27, the morning is sunny with a temperature of +26°C and a wind speed of 10 km/h, followed by patchy rain at noon with a temperature of +31°C and a wind speed of 10 km/h. The evening is expected to have light rain showers with a temperature of +27°C and a wind speed of 10 km/h, and the night is forecasted to have patchy rain with a temperature of +25°C and a wind speed of 9 km/h.

                                                                                                            For Monday, July 28, the morning is partly cloudy with a temperature of +27°C and a wind speed of 10 km/h, followed by patchy light drizzle at noon with a temperature of +31°C and a wind speed of 5 km/h. The evening is expected to have patchy rain with a temperature of +26°C and a wind speed of 10 km/h, and the night is forecasted to have patchy rain with a temperature of +24°C and a wind speed of 9 km/h.

                                                                                                            The interface uses a color-coded system to indicate weather conditions, with green for sunny, yellow for patchy rain, and purple for light rain showers. The wind speed and precipitation are also displayed for each time slot.

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                                                                                                              [?]MadaMada »
                                                                                                              @madamada@snac.void.my

                                                                                                              Looks cool and thanks.. now users can see it when they ssh login..

                                                                                                              echo 'curl wttr.in | lolcat -x' > ~/.ssh/rc

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                                                                                                                [?]http »
                                                                                                                @http@mastodon.sdf.org

                                                                                                                @madamada @Dendrobatus_Azureus well that's something fancy and useful! I like that you can replace city names with airport codes.
                                                                                                                Consider putting this into .bash_profile instead of rc. You may not want this getting in the way of running one-shot remote commands like
                                                                                                                "ssh me@there ls"

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                                                                                                                  [?]MadaMada »
                                                                                                                  @madamada@snac.void.my

                                                                                                                  Good eye thanks..

                                                                                                                  CC: @Dendrobatus_Azureus@bsd.cafe

                                                                                                                    #ipv6 boosted

                                                                                                                    [?]Mynacol »
                                                                                                                    @mynacol@social.mynacol.xyz

                                                                                                                    On the positive side, I discovered today that #ionos finally allows vserver customers (compared to their cloud computing offering) to set reverse DNS records on #IPv6 addresses. This finally allows me to send email via IPv6 over them (besides the similarly configured netcup instance I additionally have and which provides this functionality since years).

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                                                                                                                      [?]Miyuru Sankalpa »
                                                                                                                      @miyuru@ipv6.social

                                                                                                                      @mynacol I have to get a Netcup server one day. I've heard only good things.

                                                                                                                      Giving an IPv4 address is the reason I have stayed away, since I don't need it and don't like to pay IPv4 tax.

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                                                                                                                        [?]MadaMada »
                                                                                                                        @madamada@snac.void.my

                                                                                                                        In my case, Netcup IPv6 was intermittent. Turns out their gateway fe80::1 is on a switched network, and the v6 traffic seems to be switching back and forth. It was quite obvious when doing ping or traceroute tests.

                                                                                                                        The trick was to use their actual gateway address(GUA) and to also change the given prefix from /64 to /48 so that their GUA gateway address is reachable. With this tricky change, their v6 seems to be stable so far..

                                                                                                                        CC: @mynacol@mynacol.xyz

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                                                                                                                          [?]Miyuru Sankalpa »
                                                                                                                          @miyuru@ipv6.social

                                                                                                                          @madamada @mynacol thanks for the feedback. It will be helpful for me in the future.

                                                                                                                            #netbsd boosted

                                                                                                                            [?]Børge »
                                                                                                                            @noexec@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                                                                                                            I recently installed NetBSD for the first time, on a remote VPS. All was fine, I installed pkgin, got some packages installed, installed openssh-portable, got my firewall rules set and so on. Having used FreeBSD and OpenBSD before it was a little different, but not too different.

                                                                                                                            Then one day, or rather late at night I found I needed to install some X11 sets and fired up sysinst. It being late, I did not read everything very carefully, but quickly found "re-install sets", "custom installtion", and then the X11 sets at the bottom of the menu. I selected them and started the installation.

                                                                                                                            It took a little longer than expected, and I noticed it was reinstalling base for some reason. No worries I thought, I hadn't touched that in the few days the system had been running, so it shouldn't be a problem.

                                                                                                                            Then when everything was finished, I noticed things were not working as expected. I think I managed to kill the sshd listening daemon and couldn't start it again. Then I noticed /etc/rc.conf was blank, so I had no network configuration, no sshd startup, no nothing. It seems /etc had also been replaced with defaults.

                                                                                                                            So by my lonesome, I had quite quickly managed to make quite a mess of things. Fortunately I did not reboot as was my first intuition when I found things weren't working. Sshd from packages required another script which had been replaced, the original sshd I had set to listen on another port which wasn't allowed through current firewall rules and so on.

                                                                                                                            Sorry for the boring ending, but it was all fully recoverable from my one ssh connection that fortunately didn't drop. Got network configured again, got firewall set up and started, got correct sshd started and so on. Then reboot, and all was good. Thanks to good documentation and easy configuration.

                                                                                                                            And that is why I
                                                                                                                            Even being completely new to it was easy to recover.

                                                                                                                            I've re-tried sysinst after the fact, and now see base, /etc and so on will be re-installed by default if you don't uncheck them, so now I know.

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                                                                                                                              [?]Daniel Wayne Armstrong »
                                                                                                                              @dwarmstrong@fosstodon.org

                                                                                                                              @noexec This is something I was wondering about... If I install NetBSD on a remote VPS, should I do the "Full installation" option including the X11 sets?

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                                                                                                                                [?]Børge »
                                                                                                                                @noexec@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                                                                                                                @dwarmstrong Personally I prefer installing as little as possible to begin with, and then only add things as I discover I need them. It was when I installed some package, I think it was RRDtool, that I found out I needed the X11 sets for it to work.

                                                                                                                                Installing the X11 sets later on is quite easy, just make sure you uncheck "etc" and so on so you don't end up in the same situation I did. It was all shown quite clearly on the page where you find the X11 sets what would be installed, I just didn't read it properly.

                                                                                                                                I am quite new to NetBSD so not sure I am qualified to give any advice on what you should and shouldn't do, I don't know what best practices are. It probably doesn't hurt to install X11 if you have the disk space for it, but like I said, my preference is to install as little as possible at first.

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                                                                                                                                  [?]Daniel Wayne Armstrong »
                                                                                                                                  @dwarmstrong@fosstodon.org

                                                                                                                                  @noexec Thanks! If its straightforward to add the sets later, I'm inclined to not install the X11 set unless its needed.

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                                                                                                                                    [?]Børge »
                                                                                                                                    @noexec@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                                                                                                                    @dwarmstrong Yes, just do what I didn't do and read the choices presented to you, and it is all quite straightforward. I find NetBSD quite pleasant to work with, hope you'll enjoy it too!

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                                                                                                                                      [?]Farooq | فاروق »
                                                                                                                                      @farooqkz@cr8r.gg

                                                                                                                                      @noexec

                                                                                                                                      hmm what is the reason people generally go for NetBSD? Isn't it slow? I thought the "real" options for production are FreeBSD, OpenBSD and their forks.

                                                                                                                                      Note that I'm not a long time BSD user. So my question might sound weird :)

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                                                                                                                                        [?]Børge »
                                                                                                                                        @noexec@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                                                                                                                        @farooqkz No worries, not a weird question :)

                                                                                                                                        I am new to NetBSD, and I installed it just to try it out. For some reason I have experimented with and ran both FreeBSD and OpenBSD but never NetBSD, so when the option presented itself to try it, I took it.

                                                                                                                                        I can't speak for why people in general go for NetBSD, but perhaps it's similar to the reason I've used FreeBSD and OpenBSD, that I had tried them at some point in time and was a little familiar with them and thus stayed with them for new installations.

                                                                                                                                        Stefano, who is running bsd.cafe among other things, have a lot more experience with the BSDs than I have, and he's written about it on this blog. This article for instance about a NetBSD server with 9 years uptime: it-notes.dragas.net/2023/08/27

                                                                                                                                        If you were to look, I'm sure you'd find plenty of reasons NetBSD is being used in production in plenty of places. It might just not be talked about as much as the other BSDs

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                                                                                                                                          [?]MadaMada »
                                                                                                                                          @madamada@snac.void.my

                                                                                                                                          @noexec@mastodon.bsd.cafe @farooqkz@cr8r.gg NetBSD supports over 60+ different architectures and is the go to OS for cross-compiling and portability..It's also minimal..

                                                                                                                                          Theo de Raadt was a NetBSD dev for awhile before forking it as OpenBSD..

                                                                                                                                          If I recall, in the early 90's the KAME IPv6 stack for BSD was developed by devs that used NetBSD as their daily driver. The late Itojun was one of them..the KAME project was NetBSD's production ready IPv6 stack thanks to the late Itojun before it appeared in other BSD's.

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                                                                                                                                            [?]Aaron »
                                                                                                                                            @aaron@chirp.zadzmo.org

                                                                                                                                            @farooqkz I first tried NetBSD when version 1.4.3 was new; it's been my main OS on most of my devices since around 4.0 (I think, it's been a long time )

                                                                                                                                            Trying to be as brief as possible: Everything is simple, performance is excellent - very close to what is expected from the hardware - security track record is great, old software keeps working, new software runs great. The things I learned on 2.0 still apply because they got the design right the first time.

                                                                                                                                            It makes Linux feel like a cheap plastic toy that randomly changes shape every few years.

                                                                                                                                            @noexec

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                                                                                                                                              [?]Børge »
                                                                                                                                              @noexec@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                                                                                                                              @aaron Wow, that is quite impressive! I used FreeBSD and OpenBSD way back when and I wish I kept up the BSD skills by having a server or desktop somewhere when things changed in my life, but in a way it's nice getting to re-learn things as well. NetBSD has been quite nice to work with so far, even with my unintentional attempts to wreak havoc

                                                                                                                                                [?]Khronos »
                                                                                                                                                @khronos@dragonscave.space

                                                                                                                                                @noexec Ok, lets turn this around for a minute. How do I remove sets that I have installed that I feel I don't need anymore?

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]Børge »
                                                                                                                                                  @noexec@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                                                                                                                                  @khronos That is an interesting question, and one I don't have the answer to yet.

                                                                                                                                                  Information about the installed sets can be found in files in /etc/mtree, one file for each set, and I'm sure a script can be written to parse those and remove the files that were installed in the set.

                                                                                                                                                  I don't know if such a script already exists, if there is an existing command for it or anything similar

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                                                                                                                                                    [?]Khronos »
                                                                                                                                                    @khronos@dragonscave.space

                                                                                                                                                    @noexec I'll check into that. I am also looking into a way to do a hands off install so that I can install a machine by just booting off usb or iso.

                                                                                                                                                      [?]Faraiwe »
                                                                                                                                                      @faraiwe@mstdn.social

                                                                                                                                                      @noexec hashtag whew

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                                                                                                                                                        [?]Børge »
                                                                                                                                                        @noexec@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                                                                                                                                        @faraiwe Haha, yeah. It was all self-inflicted though, and ended up being a learning experience

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                                                                                                                                                          [?]Faraiwe »
                                                                                                                                                          @faraiwe@mstdn.social

                                                                                                                                                          @noexec that just about summarizes most of my learning on computers, mid 80s to now.

                                                                                                                                                          In my defense, there weren't really any courses available (or that I could afford, initially) for what I was trying to do. So many computer parts paid the price...

                                                                                                                                                          I believe artists call this "materials research".

                                                                                                                                                            [?]Mark Krueger »
                                                                                                                                                            @markkrueg@social.treehouse.systems

                                                                                                                                                            @noexec Nothing like hanging by that "one live ssh session" thread to make one a bit nervous. Been there. Happy everything worked out.

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                                                                                                                                                              [?]Børge »
                                                                                                                                                              @noexec@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                                                                                                                                              @markkrueg Thanks! Being new to the OS it was a little bit too exciting late at night, but it ended up being a learning experience so worth it in the end.

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                                                                                                                                                                [?]MadaMada »
                                                                                                                                                                @madamada@snac.void.my

                                                                                                                                                                @vermaden@bsd.cafe Is there anymore work being done with jmore or that is the final version ?

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                                                                                                                                                                  [?]vermaden »
                                                                                                                                                                  @vermaden@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                                                                                                                                                  @madamada

                                                                                                                                                                  Its never the final version :)

                                                                                                                                                                  Its just I added there things I need from it - if something new/else arises - then I am free to add/update it.

                                                                                                                                                                  What other features from jmore(8) would You like to see?

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                                                                                                                                                                    [?]MadaMada »
                                                                                                                                                                    @madamada@snac.void.my

                                                                                                                                                                    @vermaden@bsd.cafe The version now is currently sufficient, perhaps in the future an option to restrict/display the amount of cpu/mem a jail can consume would be nice..

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                                                                                                                                                                      [?]vermaden »
                                                                                                                                                                      @vermaden@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                                                                                                                                                      @madamada

                                                                                                                                                                      Its kinda a good idea.

                                                                                                                                                                      I would leave rctl(8) settings to /etc/rctl.conf file - but just to DISPLAY used CPU and RAM is a good idea. I will try to make that possible in the following month.

                                                                                                                                                                      Ping me if its not ready on 1st of September please :)

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                                                                                                                                                                        [?]MadaMada »
                                                                                                                                                                        @madamada@snac.void.my

                                                                                                                                                                        Someone created this to list jail mem usage..

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                                                                                                                                                                          [?]vermaden »
                                                                                                                                                                          @vermaden@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                                                                                                                                                          @madamada

                                                                                                                                                                          Nice ... I need to look into that - I bet the sh(1) implementation would not be that fast :)

                                                                                                                                                                            [?]vermaden »
                                                                                                                                                                            @vermaden@mastodon.bsd.cafe

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                                                                                                                                                                            [?]MadaMada »
                                                                                                                                                                            @madamada@snac.void.my

                                                                                                                                                                            Just tested, works with jmore but not jmore.6..

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                                                                                                                                                                              [?]vermaden »
                                                                                                                                                                              @vermaden@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                                                                                                                                                              @madamada

                                                                                                                                                                              I only upgraded the IPv4 one.

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                                                                                                                                                                                [?]MadaMada »
                                                                                                                                                                                @madamada@snac.void.my

                                                                                                                                                                                Hm, maybe consolidate and make it a single tool, a dual-stack tool that display's both address types..

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                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]vermaden »
                                                                                                                                                                                  @vermaden@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                                                                                                                                                                  @madamada

                                                                                                                                                                                  I only use IPv4 and there is no place I use IPv6 - I included/added IPv6 version because someone may need it - and if someone is willing to update it based on my IPv4 update then sure - I will also upload the upgraded version.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]MadaMada »
                                                                                                                                                                                    @madamada@snac.void.my

                                                                                                                                                                                    Oh my mistake..What I meant was also adding the CPU/RAM details into jmore.6 since the current one is already working nicely with IP addresses..

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                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]vermaden »
                                                                                                                                                                                      @vermaden@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                                                                                                                                                                      @madamada

                                                                                                                                                                                      When I find the time ... but could not promise anything now.

                                                                                                                                                                                        #openbsd boosted

                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Børge »
                                                                                                                                                                                        @noexec@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                                                                                                                                                                        So this is where my peeps at!

                                                                                                                                                                                        Hello everyone, my name is Børge and I am happy to get back into the BSD world, though only for personal projects for now.

                                                                                                                                                                                        I was a sysadmin for a small telco a while ago and we used Solaris/SPARC and FreeBSD/i386 for our servers, while I tried my hand at OpenBSD for my personal server. The network was all Cisco at the beginning, with some Juniper equipment for peering at the end but I did not get any experience with those unfortunately. I do have a certificate in SS7 somewhere, the signaling protocol telcos use for voice calls, but have forgotten pretty much all of it.

                                                                                                                                                                                        These days work is "cloud everything", which all seems to be based on Linux-something.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Reminiscing of "the good, old days" I wondered if I could run a BSD server anywhere to tap into my sysadmin background a little, or if I would have to use some Linux distribution.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Searching for BSD hosting providers, I am very happy I discovered which I use for OpenBSD hosting (obviously).

                                                                                                                                                                                        Then I came across where I was lucky enough to get a FreeBSD instance.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Last but not least I came across a cheap VPS provider where I could run NetBSD. I don't mention the provider because I'm not sure I can recommend them yet.

                                                                                                                                                                                        I've been on Mastodon a little while, mostly reading as there is so much of interest to find here, though also because I'm quite shy, but hope to maybe post something about what I do now and then.

                                                                                                                                                                                        I really like all the *BSDs, they just do things in a way that seems sensible to me, so being here feels a lot like coming home.

                                                                                                                                                                                        So that's me a little about me.

                                                                                                                                                                                        How are you?

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                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]MadaMada »
                                                                                                                                                                                          @madamada@snac.void.my

                                                                                                                                                                                          Hi there, I'm Darryl from Malaysia, a systems administrator for a few decades..I started to get back into FreeBSD about a year ago..a friend of mine needed help setting up a new email server for personal use..and I decided to take up the challenge, brushing up my skills along the way..

                                                                                                                                                                                          After looking at what solutions were available, I decided to go with iRedMail..

                                                                                                                                                                                          Over the course of setting up iRedMail, my dormant interest started to grow more and more, thinking what could FreeBSD do now that it couldn't do back then.. overtime I grew passionate about this, started to explore other things, then landed on self-hosting which seems to be a big thing and decided to jump it..

                                                                                                                                                                                          As of date, I have a few self-hosted stuff running where I solely maintain them..pretty fun stuff, then got to know about and it's community and decided to stick around and contribute there a bit and to my surprise, I was offered a VM from them 🙂

                                                                                                                                                                                          The next thing I had on my todo list, was getting CLAT(464XLAT) to work on FreeBSD as I'm a big fan of IPv6 and try to use it everywhere I can as priority..then I discovered that there was a new maintainer for Tayga and decided to jump in..after a few back and forth replies I finally got it to work, on the instance I had 🙂

                                                                                                                                                                                          I then set this up on all my v6-only VM's/VPS's and it's been working with no issues so far..

                                                                                                                                                                                          Overtime I continue to fine tune things I already have, and find new things to learn/do..

                                                                                                                                                                                          The community at large is pretty great, tons of people involved and it just continues to grow..

                                                                                                                                                                                          That's all about me 🙂

                                                                                                                                                                                          CC: @OpenBSDAms@bsd.cafe @BoxyBSD@bsd.cafe

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                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Børge »
                                                                                                                                                                                            @noexec@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                                                                                                                                                                            @madamada
                                                                                                                                                                                            Hi there, nice to meet you and thanks for sharing!

                                                                                                                                                                                            IPv6 is one of the things I know too little about, so I'm impressed with what you've done with CLAT. I've only taken a quick look at it and found it a little much to take in for the time being but I'll come back to it later. Now there is just so much to explore with the *BSDs. :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]MadaMada »
                                                                                                                                                                                              @madamada@snac.void.my

                                                                                                                                                                                              @noexec@mastodon.bsd.cafe Slowly but surely and have fun 🙂

                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]​izzy »
                                                                                                                                                                                                @izder456@ieji.de

                                                                                                                                                                                                @noexec @OpenBSDAms @BoxyBSD doing well! thanks for asking. been using openbsd on boxybsd with lots of success setting up a bitlbee server actually.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Børge »
                                                                                                                                                                                                  @noexec@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                                                                                                                                                                                  @izder456
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Glad to hear it, and wow, cool! I had not heard about bitlbee before but looked it up, and it looks intriguing! I can't remember the last time I used IRC though, but I remember it was chaos. Back then I think it showed your IP to everyone which I wouldn't want now, what does it take to run it securely these days?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]​izzy »
                                                                                                                                                                                                    @izder456@ieji.de

                                                                                                                                                                                                    @noexec I would personally run it behind an off site bouncer like bitlbee or znc or at least proxy my connection. ofc you should be using ssl to secure your endpoints too so your /msg NickServ's aren't super sniffable.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Børge »
                                                                                                                                                                                                      @noexec@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                                                                                                                                                                                      @izder456
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Very interesting, thanks! So much to learn :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Adam »
                                                                                                                                                                                                        @adamsdesk@fosstodon.org

                                                                                                                                                                                                        @noexec Welcome to the fediverse.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]IrishMASMS »
                                                                                                                                                                                                          @Irishmasms@defcon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                          @noexec welcome, someone will bring you the cookies shortly

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Oook »
                                                                                                                                                                                                            @oook@im-in.space

                                                                                                                                                                                                            @noexec FWIW a number of regular VPS providers are KVM based and aren't explicitely disallowing BSDs but you have to provide the ISO installer and lose most of the automatic management from the web console.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Børge »
                                                                                                                                                                                                              @noexec@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                                                                                                                                                                                              @oook It seems to me that most VPS providers don't allow you to upload custom ISOs, and for the time being that is where I am stumped, though I know they aren't explicitly disallowing BSDs.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              I've seen guides on how to install some Linux distribution first, boot into recovery mode, write a BSD image and then continue with installation, but haven't gotten that to work yet myself, unfortunately.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]MadaMada »
                                                                                                                                                                                                                @madamada@snac.void.my

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Rest in peace Ozzy.. you will be missed.

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